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Re: [usgp-nc] EXT: Re: Discussion Has Begun on GP-US Proposal: ID 1061 - Code of Conduct

Submitted by dmkeil on Mon, 07/05/2021 - 22:58

Whether a "code of conduct" will be used democratically will depend on other decisions, such as #1062, dis-accreditation of the Georgia state party, now formally under discussion. Approval of the latter will encourage the suppression of ideas, in state parties and at the national level, under every guise, including the rubric of "conduct."  

Re: [usgp-nc] Discussion Has Begun on GP-US Proposal: ID 1062 - Disaccreditation of the Georgia Green Party

Submitted by dmkeil on Mon, 07/05/2021 - 21:06

To make a case that the GaGP is "transphobic" and that it violates the value of social justice and equal opportunity, the proposal by the Accreditation Committee only quotes, exactly once, from a document endorsed by the GaGP, the Declaration on Women's Sex-Based Rights:

“Men who claim a female ’gender identity’ are being enabled to access opportunities and protections set aside for women. This constitutes a form of discrimination against women, and endangers women’s fundamental rights to safety, dignity and equality.” 

If some males are viewed as in fact accessing opportunities and protections set aside for females, then Greens may indeed have concerns about such a "form of discrmination against women." This NC has yet to take up the cases for and against such a view. Until we do so, the AC's proposal is entirely out of order. 

The following is from the minority report by Del. Sutter; is based on the evidence he saw; and is consistent with what Del. Doyle has stated:

"Nowhere in the Complaint has the Lavender Caucus cited any evidence of the alleged transphobia of the Georgia Party, except for the assertions, unsupported by any actual evidence, that the Declaration for the Rights of Women as a Sex is a statement in opposition to the rights of trans-identified people. Nor does the Accreditation Committee anywhere provide any evidence that Georgia 'exhibit[s] bigoted, anti-transgender positions that violate the Key Value of Social Justice and Equal Opportunity.'... 

"Greens are all united by our support for trans folk to be able to do and be the way they want & not to be mistreated for their gender non-conformity or self-presentation. Indeed, all people should be free to dress and express themselves as they wish without discrimination, stigma, or violence. Members of the Georgia party believe this just as other Greens do. The disagreement that led to the LC’s complaint therefore has nothing to do with actual bigotry or prejudice on the part of Georgia."

Contrary to being a romping ground for anti-trans hatred and discrimination, the Green Party is united in rejecting it. The proposal by the Accreditation Committee is an effort to exclude members who are part of this consensus but who question certain elements of a narrow gender ideology. Prepare for similar narrow interpretations of eco-socialism and other commonly held ideas. 

Re: [usgp-dx] Update on NLGC complaint against the GAGP

Submitted by dmkeil on Sun, 07/04/2021 - 16:59

This is to echo Del. Feinstein's comments below. The proposal to dis-accredit a state party is a major decision with heavy consequences for all. It needs full discussion and all delegates need to review relevant documents. 

The proposal is at https://secure.gpus.org/cgi-bin/vote/propdetail?pid=1062. That site ought to include links to related documentation, including the minority report to the NC by AccredCom member Jeff Sutter; the defense brief; and testimony of expert defense witnesses. 

Formal discussion in the NC is to start 7/5/21. 

Re: [usgp-dx] Censoring for an opinion about policy and politics

Submitted by dmkeil on Thu, 07/01/2021 - 20:46

From: DAVID KEIL <dmkeil@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 1, 8:46 PM
To: National
Subject: Re: [usgp-dx] Censoring for an opinion about policy and politics

 

In this thread we're discussing how to avoid putting each other down or shutting each other down. How do we separate that from "Dissent [as] an important source of knowledge" (Elie)?

"It's no surprise that this kind of behavior [words intended to injure or divide] exhibits itself just before a disaffiliation vote and a Steering Committee vote" (Tony).

Re: [usgp-dx] Update on NLGC complaint against the GAGP

Submitted by dmkeil on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 17:28

From: DAVID KEIL <dmkeil@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 5, 5:28 PM
To: National
Subject: [usgp-dx] Update on NLGC complaint against the GAGP

 

According to Andy Ellis's message of four days ago, the Accreditation Committee has recommended dis-accreditation of the Georgia state party and will send specific wording to the SC for consideration of the NC.

Re: [usgp-dx] Update on NLGC complaint against the GAGP

Submitted by dmkeil on Sat, 06/05/2021 - 05:28

From: DAVID KEIL <dmkeil@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 5, 5:28 PM
To: National
Subject: Re: [usgp-dx] Update on NLGC complaint against the GAGP

According to Andy Ellis's message of four days ago, the Accreditation Committee has recommended dis-accreditation of the Georgia state party and will send specific wording to the SC for consideration of the NC.